Secrets of Staffing Success

[Stage] Dan Fisher - Actionable Advice to Master the Cold Call

Cold calling in the staffing industry is stuck in the 1980s—but it doesn’t have to be.

In this powerful episode of Take the Stage, Dan Fisher, founder of Menemsha Group, joins Brad Bialy (Director of Digital Marketing with Haley Marketing) to share how staffing professionals can modernize their sales outreach, differentiate themselves, and close more deals. From disarming the mental spam filter to mastering the art of the cold call, Dan delivers practical strategies backed by experience coaching 500+ staffing firms. Learn how to build trust, lead with empathy, and turn every call into a conversation.

 

Key Moments in the Episode:

• [00:00] – Introduction: Why Cold Calling Feels Broken

• [01:18] – Why Staffing Is Behind Other Industries

• [03:14] – The Order-Taker Mentality

• [04:53] – Roleplay & Daily Practice

• [06:35] – Disarming vs. Selling

• [08:34] – How We Come Across as a Commodity

• [09:52] – The Art of Asking Permission

• [13:10] – Define What Yes Looks Like

• [15:51] – Sell Outcomes, Not Services

• [17:46] – How to Collect Impact Stories

• [21:07] – What to Do Once They Say Yes

• [23:43] – Sell the Problem, Not the Product

• [29:01] – Why Flipping the Conversation Works

• [30:08] – The True Purpose of a Voicemail

• [31:07] – About Menemsha Group

• [31:37] – Final Advice for Sales Reps

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy is host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the leading podcast for the staffing industry, presented by Haley Marketing. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

 

Between 1996 and 2008 Dan Fisher made over 800K cold calls selling IT staffing services, averaging $1.7M in annual GP. In 2008, he took the leap of faith, walking away from a high-paying Director level job in favor of hanging his own shingle and starting Menemsha Group. Since then Dan has worked with over 500 staffing and recruiting firms, and has trained and coached thousands of reps, recruiters and front line managers. By adopting Dan’s training and coaching tools,  clients have experienced amazing results including:

• 75% of sales reps trained grow their weekly GM by an average of 3X
• Sales win rates increase by an average of 19%
• Clients have accelerated new hire time to first placement by 52%

In addition to training and coaching, Dan now provides sales and recruiter enablement services, where he teaches staffing owners how to make winning behaviors repeatable, at scale, for predictable revenue growth.

[InSights] How to Recruit Outside of Job Boards in 2025

Struggling to find candidates outside of Indeed or ZipRecruiter? Learn how leading staffing firms are mastering recruiting outside of job boards in 2025.

In this episode of Insights, presented by Haley Marketing, Brad Bialy is joined by Chief Strategy Officer Brad Smith to break down the most effective strategies to supplement—or even reduce—your job board spend. From leveraging Facebook and community groups to building powerful referral networks and reactivating your ATS, this episode offers a comprehensive playbook for sourcing talent in tough labor markets.

Expect to Learn:

1. How to build hyper-local Facebook campaigns that actually convert
2. The real ROI of employee referral programs (and why most firms ignore them)
3. Why your ATS is a goldmine—and how to activate it with segmentation
4. Creative grassroots strategies like churches, trade schools, and local partnerships
5. How top firms are rethinking their application flow to increase conversions
6. The secret to follow-up that drives results: 70 touches, data-backed

Whether you’re scaling your recruiting operations or just trying to reduce dependency on major platforms, this episode gives you a tactical roadmap to find better candidates, faster. 

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy is host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the leading podcast for the staffing industry. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

Brad Smith is a Certified Inbound Marketing professional who has managed the implementation of digital marketing campaigns for hundreds of staffing firms. Brad has over 20 years of industry experience and stays on top of new marketing and technology trends, transforming them into winning strategies for staffing and recruiting firms.

 

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[Stage] Patrick Morin - Your Culture is Your Competitive Advantage

Company culture strategy isn’t just important—it is your competitive advantage. In this powerful conversation from Take the Stage, Brad Bialy sits down with Patrick Morin, Partner at Transact Capital, to explore why company culture is more than a part of the business—it is the business. Especially in the highly commoditized staffing industry, culture is the invisible hand that shapes performance, retention, and client trust.

Drawing on insights from Bill Taylor (Fast Company) and firsthand experience in M&A and organizational leadership, Patrick breaks down:

• Why culture defines your brand more than your strategy doc ever will

• How top-performing firms build cultures of accountability, learning, and responsibility

• The role of leadership in embedding values into operations, not just words

• How cultural fit—even for a 12-week assignment—can drastically improve outcomes

• Why the most disruptive companies hold everyone, even executives, accountable

• The golden framework for owning, competing, and reaching for business in uncertain times

If you’ve ever felt like your staffing firm lacks a true differentiator—this is the conversation you can’t afford to miss.

 

Chapters and Key Moments:

• 00:01 – Culture is the strategy: unpacking Bill Taylor’s insight

• 02:15 – Innovation as differentiation in a commoditized staffing world

• 03:47 – Top-down and grassroots culture development

• 05:12 – Hiring for cultural fit vs. skills

• 06:41 – Embedding temps into client culture

• 08:00 – Necessary evil to trusted advisor

• 11:28 – Culture of accountability, responsibility & learning

• 14:57 – A story of accountability—from the maintenance guy up

• 16:30 – Humility and “I’m sorry” as leadership superpowers

• 19:28 – Empathy and handwritten notes: the human advantage

• 24:32 – Own, compete, and reach: a framework for market strategy

• 28:31 – How to pivot in uncertain markets

• 30:58 – Optimism for the future of staffing

• 32:32 – About Transact Capital Partners

• 36:12 – Advice for new staffing professionals

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy is host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the leading podcast for the staffing industry. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

 

Patrick Morin is a partner with Transact Capital Securities, a Richmond, Virginia- based investment banking firm that specializes in mergers and acquisitions of privately-owned companies with enterprise values up to $250MM. Transact specializes in the staffing industry, serving clients in technology, light industrial, marine/stevedoring, skilled labor, hospitality, logistics, financial & administrative, legal, and medical staffing specialties.

He was also one of the founding partners of BrightHammer, LLC., a global consultancy engaged by private equity groups, boards of directors, and CEOs to improve the performance of their invested companies. BrightHammer works with select start-ups, growth companies, and turnarounds to stabilize operations and ramp up revenue and employee performance.

Prior to his current engagement, he was seven years as Senior Vice President with Cornerstone Realty Income Trust, Inc., a New York Stock Exchange-traded company that owned and operated apartments throughout the US.

Before joining Cornerstone, Mr. Morin was with Dale Carnegie Training for five years and was an instructor for almost two decades. He was ranked among the top instructors globally and was a member of the elite Global Delivery Team.

While a member of the National Speakers Association, he personally conducted thousands of keynotes and training meetings for businesses, associations, government agencies and community groups. Notable groups he's addressed include: the National Independent Staffing Association, McDonalds, National Association of Women In Construction, NASA, the National Ground Intelligence Center, the DEA, National Apartment Association, and the staffing associations of NY, Wisconsin, New Jersey.

Mr. Morin appears on television, radio, and in print (Forbes, CNBC, Crain’s) as an authority in his field and wrote a weekly column on sales for the Central Pennsylvania Business Journal and www.lendio.com.

He serves on the boards of several local charities including the YMCA and the Franks Foundation.

Patrick makes his home in Richmond, Virginia and in chairlifts of ski resorts around the country.

[Stage] Mike Cleland - Can We Stop the Staffing Industry's 3-Year Decline?

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy is joined by Mike Cleland, founder of Charted Path, for an insightful conversation on the real challenges and opportunities in the staffing and recruiting industry. As economic data shows disconnects between GDP growth and staffing performance, Mike provides a compelling breakdown of why the industry has underperformed and how accountability at every level is the missing link. The two discuss the importance of strong sales culture, resilience in recruitment, and the critical role of leadership in driving lasting change. Mike shares hard-earned lessons from coaching hundreds of firms and breaks down what distinguishes high-performing teams from struggling ones. Whether you're leading a staffing firm or just getting started in the industry, this episode delivers a masterclass in growth strategy, cultural alignment, and personal development.

 

5 Key Takeaways from This Episode:

✅ Who is accountable for the staffing industry’s underperformance?  

✅ Become a sales team, not order takers

✅ How should you address toxic high-performers?

✅ Common traits of a company poised for growth

✅ Can small firms compete with the Goliaths in the room?

 

Chapters & Key Moments

00:00 – Why the staffing industry is underperforming
01:25 – The accountability gap in staffing
03:56 – From order takers to proactive sales teams
06:31 – Sales rejection, resiliency, and realignment
08:05 – Leadership's role in resetting accountability
09:53 – Coaching high-performers and learning from them
11:28 – Top-down and peer-to-peer accountability
13:41 – Culture and the power of peer influence
15:13 – Addressing toxic high-performers
18:17 – Red flags in staffing firm culture
20:45 – Traits of a company poised for growth
26:32 – Can small firms compete with Goliaths?
28:21 – About Charted Path and Mike’s work
29:29 – The book that changed Mike’s business mindset
34:06 – Advice for those starting in staffing 

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

With over 30 years of experience in the staffing industry, Mike Cleland helps executives achieve their growth goals through leadership development and organization design.  As the founder of Charted Path, Mike has worked with owners and executives on optimizing organizational structure, company governance, business planning, sales strategy, process improvement, performance management, and compensation plan development.   Mike has worked with over 140 companies ranging from start-up to $600 million in every major staffing vertical.

As a former president of a $60 million IT staffing company, Mike understands the practical challenges of execution and helps clients develop focused and feasible solutions that management teams can implement. When not working with his clients, Mike shares his knowledge through various articles and speaking engagements.  His latest book Breaking Through: Leadership Disciplines from Top Performing Staffing Firms,  was co-authored with Barry Asin, President of SIA, as a follow-up to Behind the Wheel: Driving Excellence in Staffing Operations. Mike was named to the Staffing Industry Analysts Top 100 in Staffing for many years. He is also an Everything DiSC and Five Behaviors of a Cohesive Team Partner as well as a Certified Contingent Workforce Professional through Staffing Industry Analysts.

 

 

[InSights] Sales Strategies for Recruiters: How to Sell in 2025

What are some of the best Sales Strategies for Recruiters?

With staffing industry revenues down and competition fiercer than ever, many firms are realizing they don’t have a structured sales system. Recruiters are great at sourcing talent, but selling? That’s where many struggle.

In this episode of InSights, Brad Bialy and Steve Gipson break down the proven sales strategies for recruiters that drive results in today’s market. You’ll learn why top-performing firms have predictable sales processes, how to balance recruiting and selling, and why it takes 17–20 touches for prospects to engage.

If you’re a recruiter, sales professional, or staffing leader, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you close more deals and stabilize your business in 2025.

5 Key Takeaways from This Episode:

• Why recruiters struggle with selling—and how to fix it
• How to transition from order-taker to true sales professional
• The AIDA model: Awareness, Interest, Desire, Action
• Why it takes 17–20 touches to engage staffing clients
• The biggest mistakes firms make when chasing new business

If you’ve seen content from Tedx Talks, Recruiter Preston, or Haley Marketing, you’ll love this episode. The best staffing and recruiting firms follow a structured sales process—learn how you can, too!

Episode Chapters & Timestamps:

[00:01] – Introduction & Catching Up from the Massachusetts Staffing Association Conference

[02:14] – The Challenge: "We Don't Know How to Sell"

[03:00] – The Shift from Order-Takers to Sales Professionals

[06:03] – Why 17–20 Touches Matter in Sales

[07:33] – The AIDA Model: Awareness, Interest, Desire, Action

09:06] – Three Times the Work for Half the Results?

[12:07] – Stabilizing Your Business: The Key to 2025

[14:10] – The Danger of Chasing Any Order vs. Staying in Your Niche

[17:52] – Learning from Top Recruiters: Find Your Mentor

[20:32] – Predictability & Process: The Key to Closing Deals

[21:41] – Final Thoughts & Takeaways

 

InSights is Hosted by Brad Bialy and Steve Gipson

Brad Bialy is the host of Take the Stage and InSights, the staffing industry's leading podcasts with close to 175,000 downloads. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic marketing concepts. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 150 industry-specific conferences and webinars. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after speaker and expert.

A recruiting industry veteran with over 15 years of experience, Steve Gipson is the Director of Sales and Operations at Recruiters Websites. After spending seven years as a recruiter with a boutique search firm, he joined Recruiters Websites, a digital marketing agency specializing in the recruitment industry. For the past decade, Recruiters Websites has helped over 800 firms of all sizes and specialties enhance their digital presence and make more placements through their expertise in digital marketing, website development, and SEO services.

[Stage] Barry Asin - Staffing Industry Trends: AI, Growth and Leadership

What are the staffing industry trends in 2025? With AI, economic shifts, and technological disruptions, firms must adapt—or risk falling behind.

Barry Asin, President & Chief Analyst of Staffing Industry Analysts (SIA), joins Brad Bialy to break down key trends, challenges, and opportunities shaping the industry.

SIA is the leading authority in staffing research, and Barry’s insights help top firms navigate uncertainty and stay ahead of the competition.

This is a big episode—we’re covering SIA’s latest research, why "Flat is the New Up," and how leadership separates thriving firms from struggling ones.

Plus, we discuss SIA’s upcoming Executive Forum on March 10, the must-attend event for staffing leaders.

Whether you’re a staffing firm owner, recruiter, or industry executive, this episode is a must-watch to stay ahead in 2025.

If you've seen content from Staffing Monthly or Haley Marketing, you’ll love this episode. Barry Asin has advised the world’s top staffing firms and brings exclusive insights on how to lead and grow in today’s industry.

5 Key Takeaways from This Episode:

✅ Why "Flat is the New Up"

✅ The impact of AI on recruiting?

✅ How top staffing firms are staying ahead.

✅ The leadership mindset shifts that separate thriving firms from struggling ones

✅ Why small and mid-sized staffing firms can still compete with billion-dollar tech giants

 

Chapters & Key Moments

00:01 - Introduction: Barry Asin on the staffing industry's outlook for 2025

00:10 - Why the industry is stabilizing and SIA’s 5% growth projection

01:14 - Sector breakdown: Healthcare staffing struggles, IT and AI’s impact

03:07 - "Flat is the new up": How firms should view growth in 2025

06:34 - Election years and their impact on staffing demand

07:28 - AI in staffing: A threat or an opportunity?

11:01 - What top staffing firms do differently: Embracing change

14:18 - Growth mindset: How leadership shapes long-term success

18:07 - Biggest threats to the staffing industry in 2025 and beyond

23:56 - Competing with tech-driven platforms like Amazon and Upwork

27:41 - How small firms can stay competitive despite massive tech budgets

28:41 - Preview of SIA’s upcoming Executive Forum

30:25 - What is Staffing Industry Analysts (SIA)?

32:57 - Rapid fire: Barry’s top book, best career advice, and Bills' Super Bowl hopes

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

A leading authority on workforce solutions worldwide, Barry Asin is renowned for his expertise on staffing and contingent labor. He served as Staffing Industry Analysts (SIA) president from 2010 through 2024 with overall responsibility for the company’s global strategy, operations and growth. Asin has been with the company since 2003, where he previously led the team responsible for SIA’s award-winning research and content. As chief analyst he continues to focus on developing SIA’s thought leadership, conference content, long-term strategy and product development.

[InSights] How Staffing Firms Unknowingly Fall Behind

Recruitment marketing is more than just posting jobs—it’s about staying visible in an overcrowded digital world. In this episode, Brad Bialy and Steve Gipson discuss why consistency in marketing is critical, the hidden cost of doing nothing, and how companies unknowingly fall behind. They explore the science behind attention, why it takes 17+ touchpoints for prospects to recognize a brand, and how surround sound marketing can transform your outreach. Plus, they answer a key listener question on using social media to target healthcare staffing clients effectively. 

Chapters & Timestamps:

[00:00] – Intro: Florida Trip, Cold Weather, and Catching Up
[03:00] – The Psychology of Attention: Why People Ignore Your Marketing
[07:00] – Repetition, Consistency, and Branding: Lessons from Major Companies
[10:30] – The Hidden Cost of Doing Nothing: How Stagnation Kills Growth
[15:30] – Finding Your Business’s True North: What Are You Really After?
[21:45] – The Compounding Impact of Neglecting Marketing
[26:00] – Answering a Listener Question: Social Media Strategy for Healthcare Staffing
[32:00] – The Power of Niche Content: Creating One-of-One Marketing
[37:00] – Final Takeaways: Why Standing Still Means Falling Behind

InSights is Hosted by Brad Bialy and Steve Gipson

Brad Bialy is the host of Take the Stage and InSights, the staffing industry's leading podcasts with close to 175,000 downloads. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic marketing concepts. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 150 industry-specific conferences and webinars. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after speaker and expert. A recruiting industry veteran with over 15 years of experience,

Steve Gipson is the Director of Sales and Operations at Recruiters Websites. After spending seven years as a recruiter with a boutique search firm, he joined Recruiters Websites, a digital marketing agency specializing in the recruitment industry. For the past decade, Recruiters Websites has helped over 800 firms of all sizes and specialties enhance their digital presence and make more placements through their expertise in digital marketing, website development, and SEO services.

[Stage] Joey Frampus - What High-Performing Sales Teams Do Differently

Many staffing firms have sales teams, but not all are truly high-performing. If you're wondering what separates elite sales teams from the rest, this episode has the expert advice you need to improve your current processes and sales tactics.

This information will result in immediate revenue—it's worth the listen. Joey Frampus, Managing Director at Butler Street, shares proven strategies that high-performing sales organizations use to dominate their industries.

Learn how top staffing firms surpass $100M in revenue, why AI is a game-changer in sales, and how endurance sports shaped Joey’s approach to sales success.

This episode should inspire you to look up high-performing sales teams and implement winning strategies for 2025.

 

Some of the biggest takeaways include:

✅ Who drives sales strategy—leadership or reps?

✅ How to build a high-performing sales culture

✅ The biggest mistakes sales teams make in 2025

✅ What elite staffing firms do differently to break $100M in revenue

✅ The AI revolution in sales—will AI replace recruiters?

✅ The mental game of sales—overcoming self-limiting beliefs Whether you're a sales leader, recruiter, or rep looking to sharpen your skills, this conversation with Joey Frampus will change the way you think about sales performance.

 

Episode Chapters & Timestamps

[00:01] - What separates top-performing sales teams?

[00:38] - Who drives sales strategy—leadership or sales reps?

[01:26] - How to create a high-performing sales culture

[02:07] - Biggest mistakes staffing firms make in 2025

[04:32] - The $100M revenue threshold—what elite firms do differently

[06:40] - How to capture more market share from existing customers

[09:55] - How AI is transforming the sales process

[15:21] - Could AI replace recruiters?

[18:51] - Why AI frees up sales reps to do what they do best

[20:37] - Lessons from endurance sports that apply to sales

[27:31] - The mental game: overcoming self-limiting beliefs in sales

[30:18] - The power of identity shifts in sales & athletics

[32:14] - Joey’s background & Butler Street’s mission

[34:06] - Rapid fire: Books, advice, and sales wisdom

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

Joey Frampus, Managing Director at Butler Street, brings 12+ years of experience in the staffing industry, covering a broad spectrum from recruiting and operations to sales and leadership. He has led sales offices across the country, but his true passion lies in personal and professional leadership development. Prior to joining Butler Street, Joey carved out a significant career path that took him from one of the largest staffing firms in the United States to pivotal roles in a dynamic startup environment. This journey has endowed him with a unique blend of insights into both the operational complexities of large-scale organizations and the agile, innovative strategies essential for startup success. His experience spans across diverse markets, from St. Louis, Detroit, and Dallas to Atlanta and Chicago, offering him a well-rounded perspective on the staffing industry's varied landscapes. Originally from Washington D.C., Joey is a Graduate of Saint Louis University where he was a Division I Athlete. Now a full time Chicago resident Joey is an aspiring Chicago Marathoner, a devotee of Chicago's vibrant food scene, and a proud new dog dad. 

[Stage] James Abraham - The Winning Sales Mindset for Staffing Firms

In this episode of Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, James Abraham, CEO of Sandler Israel, joins Brad Bialy to discuss the mindset and techniques that separate elite sales professionals from the rest. Discover why conviction is key in sales, how to develop mental resilience, and why tracking behaviors is more critical than tracking results. James also shares insights from his marathon training and how it parallels success in sales. If you're looking to overcome rejection, set better sales goals, and build a winning mindset, this episode is for you!

 

Episode Chapters & Key Moments: [00:12] – How to redefine what’s possible in sales and life [00:43] – Sales is a rejection game: Why mindset matters [02:12] – Choose your pain: The pain of discipline vs. the pain of regret [03:06] – The Sandler BAT Triangle: Behavior, Attitude, and Technique [04:35] – Why measuring inputs (not just outputs) is the key to sales success [07:19] – The #1 mindset shift that successful salespeople make [09:30] – How to turn around a sales slump and reframe your perspective [12:07] – The power of conviction: Why belief drives sales success [17:38] – The contagious nature of attitude in sales teams [25:09] – Running marathons & sales success: Lessons from endurance sports [30:23] – Why top sales reps work out daily: The sales-fitness connection [36:46] – How exercise fuels better decision-making and performance [41:24] – The best advice for new sales reps

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

James Abraham is a dynamic sales performance trainer and leadership excellence coach, and the driving force behind Sandler® in Israel. James empowers business leaders and sales professionals to unlock their full potential, master their craft, and achieve unparalleled success. With over three decades of experience, he has revolutionized sales performance, enablement and leadership development, helping organizations and top performing individual contributors thrive in today’s competitive landscape. An award-winning speaker, marathon runner, and fitness enthusiast, James embodies the principles of discipline, resilience, and growth that he instills in his clients. Whether transforming sales teams or coaching C-suite executives, James is on a mission to leave a legacy of empowered individuals who dare to achieve beyond their wildest dreams. Tune in as he shares his passion, insights, and actionable strategies for success.

[Stage] Rochelle Carrington - Stop Chasing Prospects: Mastering Staffing Sales

How can staffing professionals stop chasing prospects and start closing more job orders? In this episode of Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, Brad Bialy and Rochelle Carrington tackle this critical question, sharing strategies for adopting the right sales mindset, guiding prospects to decisive actions, and focusing on high-impact techniques. Rochelle outlines the importance of understanding your audience, structuring sales conversations, and pre-call preparation to build trust and efficiency. Learn how to balance technique, mindset, and action to set yourself apart in the competitive staffing industry.

 

Chapters and Timestamps

[00:01] – Kicking Off: Can we stop chasing prospects?

[00:23] – Building the Ideal Sales Mindset

[01:07] – Equal Business Stature: Treating prospects as peers

[03:10] – Guiding Prospects to Decisions Without Pressure

[05:58] – Marrying Marketing and Sales: A unified strategy

[09:24] – Starting Fresh in 2025: Mindset shifts for a new year

[13:03] – Essential Sales Techniques: Questions and process design

[17:21] – Focusing on Prospect Pain Points: Why it matters

[22:29] – Sales as Strategy: Questions, testing, and preparation

[28:44] – Navigating New Roles: Balancing manager expectations

[32:32] – About Bulletproof Management: Rochelle’s approach to coaching

[34:30] – Rapid-Fire Round

 

About the Speakers

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry.

As the CEO of Emotional Intelligence Blueprinting, Rochelle Carrington coaches successful businesspeople around the world and retrains their subconscious minds to enable them to reach peak performance. Her coaching creates transformational results for her clients. She is a world reknown speaker on topics relating to mindset, sales and success. In addition, she has advised and trained thousands of business executives on best practices to develop stronger sales teams, create better hiring practices and lead organizations more effectively. Rochelle possesses over 30 years of experience in coaching, sales and leadership.