Secrets of Staffing Success

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Candid conversations with entrepreneurs and thought leaders in the staffing and recruiting industry. Brought to you by Haley Marketing

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7 days ago

[Stage] Why the Old Staffing Playbook Is Failing (with Brett Cavanagh)

7 days ago

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy sits down with Brett Cavanagh to explore why staffing firms must abandon the old transactional playbook, embrace a consultative mindset, and leverage technology like AI while doubling down on the human relationships that truly drive success.

About the Guest

Brett Cavanagh is the President of TempWorks Software and Lone Oak Payroll. With more than a decade of experience working directly inside staffing firms before moving into technology leadership, Brett now helps agencies scale through smarter systems, operational discipline, and deeper alignment between technology and the real-world demands of recruiting and staffing.

Key Takeaways

The old staffing playbook is breaking in a changing market.
Talent inventory determines who wins in staffing.
Commoditized staffing always becomes a race to the bottom.
AI won’t replace recruiters—it will expose weak ones.
The future belongs to consultative staffing firms.

Timestamps

[00:00] – Is selling staffing harder than ever?

[01:40] – Why cold calling candidates is fading

[04:05] – What winning staffing firms do differently

[05:49] – The shift from transactional to consultative selling

[08:24] – Why fear drives bad staffing decisions

[10:58] – The danger of competing on price

[16:03] – Building a true candidate-first experience

[21:43] – The “sports agent” mindset for recruiters

[24:45] – How AI will reshape staffing

[32:23] – AI will expose average recruiters

[37:14] – Where growth still exists in staffing

[46:03] – Brett’s advice for the next generation

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors and Offers Heard

Take the Stage is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we're offering 50% off a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Benefits in a Card helps staffing firms offer meaningful benefits to their entire workforce through flexible, unbundled plans designed for high-turnover environments—making it easier to control costs, improve retention, and stay competitive. https://www.BenefitsInACard.com

TRICOM partners with staffing firms as an asset-based lender and full-service back-office provider, helping owners scale confidently by reducing risk and easing the operational strain of payroll, cash flow, and administration. https://www.tricom.com

Monday Mar 02, 2026

[InSights] Clients Retention Happens Between Deliverables

Monday Mar 02, 2026

In this episode of InSights, Brad Bialy sits down with Hailey Birkner (Account Manager with Haley Marketing) to unpack why retention is built between deliverables and how intentional account management drives deeper relationships, stronger loyalty, and more revenue from the clients you already have.

About the Guest

Hailey Birkner is an Account Manager at Haley Marketing, where she helps staffing firms turn strategy into sustainable momentum. With a background in automation and client experience, she lives at the intersection of service, clarity, and trust—coaching clients toward consistent, long-term success.

Key Takeaways

Retention is earned between the wins.
Consistency beats intensity—every time.
Silence is not success; feedback fuels growth.
Automation supports relationships, it doesn’t replace them.
Authenticity is your only real competitive advantage.

Timestamps

[03:25] – “Retention is built between deliverables” reframed
[04:12] – Why service alone is just table stakes
[05:08] – Consistency over intensity in client relationships
[06:25] – Scaling personalization without losing authenticity
[08:09] – Coaching vs. transactional account management
[09:52] – Quarterly touchpoints that create momentum
[11:00] – Using automation to nurture at scale
[13:42] – Plan your work, work your plan
[15:05] – Why silence is not success
[16:54] – Creative follow-ups that re-engage clients
[18:58] – Writing emails people actually respond to
[21:06] – Segmenting accounts for smarter growth

About the Host

Sponsors and Offers Heard

InSights is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we're offer 50% off of a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

This episode is brought to you by FoxHire. If you’re looking for an Employer of Record partner that helps recruiters confidently grow contract placements and build recurring revenue without taking on extra risk, FoxHire is perfect for you. Learn more at FoxHire.com/Haley

Monday Feb 23, 2026

[Stage] The AI Divide: Why Some Staffing Firms Are Pulling Ahead (with Nicole Krensky)

Monday Feb 23, 2026

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy sits down with Nicole Krensky to break down how AI is separating the leaders from the laggards in staffing and what firms must do now to stay competitive.

About the Guest

Nicole Krensky is Director of Product Marketing at Bullhorn, where she leads go-to-market strategy for Amplify, Automation, and Search & Match. With nearly a decade in tech marketing and deep exposure to AI adoption across staffing firms, Nicole works directly with companies navigating the shift toward AI-powered recruiting.

Key Takeaways

AI adoption is no longer optional—it’s operational.
The pack is already separating.
Automation amplifies recruiters; it doesn’t replace them.
Database depth is a competitive weapon.
Curiosity with action beats hesitation.

Timestamps

[00:39] – How AI is reshaping staffing firms
[02:25] – The evolving role of the modern recruiter
[05:12] – Leading AI adoption without team resistance
[09:26] – Using AI to drive recruiting firm growth
[12:10] – Why AI creates competitive advantage
[13:11] – Best first step for AI in recruiting
[16:10] – Eliminating the resume black hole with AI
[18:30] – Improving candidate experience through automation
[23:53] – Quick-win AI tools for recruiter productivity
[28:35] – Increasing recruiter output with AI workflows
[31:57] – Cleaning and leveraging your staffing database
[35:44] – Advanced AI strategy for staffing leadership

About the Host

Sponsors and Offers Heard

Take the Stage is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we're offering 50% off a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Monday Feb 16, 2026

[InSights] I Asked ChatGPT Hard Questions About Staffing. Here’s What It Said…

Monday Feb 16, 2026

In this episode of Take the Stage InSights, Brad Bialy sits down to interview ChatGPT (yes...the AI-powered LLM) to unpack the real state of staffing, the rise of AI, and what firms must do now to stay relevant in a rapidly shifting talent market.

About the Guest

For sake of this conversation, ChatGPT was primed to be an AI strategist and staffing industry analyst specializing in the intersection of talent markets, technology, and future disruption. With a data-driven lens and objective insights, ChatGPT explores how automation, workforce trends, and evolving recruiter roles are reshaping the future of staffing.

Key Takeaways

Transactional recruiting is dying; consultative partnership is winning.
AI will eliminate tasks, not the need for trust.
Specialization builds authority; dilution breeds confusion.
Data is no longer optional—it’s your competitive edge.
Speed matters, but humanity closes the deal.

Timestamps

[00:01] – Resetting the staffing narrative

[01:52] – The uncomfortable truth about talent shortages

[03:34] – Why recruiters must become career architects

[06:32] – Specialize or slowly disappear

[07:49] – Selling roles vs. solving business problems

[08:22] – Designing candidate experience that actually wins

[12:02] – When AI becomes a gatekeeper (and how to stop it)

[14:26] – The legacy mindset killing growth

[17:43] – The questions that elevate you to strategic partner

[21:53] – What AI will automate first — and fast

[25:48] – Fewer recruiters. Bigger results. Here’s why.

[29:35] – The AI blind spot redefining success

About the Host

Sponsors

InSights is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we're offer 50% off of a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Monday Feb 09, 2026

[Stage] 300 Applications. 0 Interviews. A CHROs TRUE Story

Monday Feb 09, 2026

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy sits down with Paul Petersen to unpack why the candidate black hole still exists in recruiting and how human-centered, tech-enabled recruiting can finally fix it.

About the Guest

Paul Petersen is a fractional CHRO and executive workforce strategist with more than 30 years of experience helping organizations modernize talent acquisition, HR technology, and workforce strategy across global enterprises. He’s known for blending deep HR tech expertise with a relentless focus on the human experience for both talent and hiring managers.

Key Takeaways

Speed without intention creates invisible talent.
Screening out is easier than building trust—but far less effective.
Communication is the real differentiator in modern recruiting.
Technology should amplify recruiters, not replace them.
Great recruiters act like agents, not gatekeepers.

Timestamps

[00:23] – Why the candidate black hole still exists

[02:54] – Screening out versus screening in explained

[05:16] – When “speed to hire” becomes the wrong metric

[06:48] – The two personas that actually matter

[08:35] – Can AI really fix the candidate experience?

[10:33] – The Domino’s pizza tracker analogy for recruiting

[14:02] – Why talent pools are massively underutilized

[16:26] – Predicting talent needs before jobs open

[20:53] – Paul’s 300-application job search story

[25:11] – Why recruiters should think like sports agents

[30:37] – The hiring manager’s missing voice in HR tech

[35:27] – Integrity as a long-term recruiting advantage

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors and Offers Heard

Take the Stage is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we're offering 50% off a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Monday Feb 02, 2026

[InSights] Staffing Firms Don't Need Marketing...They Need a Growth Engine

Monday Feb 02, 2026

In this episode of InSights, presented by Haley Marketing, Brad Bialy sits down with David Searns, Co-CEO of Haley Marketing, to unpack why staffing firms must build a true growth engine—one that aligns marketing, sales, and buyer enablement to win in a more skeptical, competitive market.

About the Guest

David Searns is the Co-CEO of Haley Marketing and one of the most experienced voices in staffing industry marketing. With more than 25 years helping firms clarify differentiation and drive demand, David brings a deep, practical understanding of what actually fuels sustainable growth.

Key Takeaways

Marketing is a sales advantage, not a creative expense.
Buyers decide long before sales ever gets the call.
Differentiation starts with customer problems, not company features.
Nurturing beats chasing when markets tighten.
If you don’t define your aisle, you compete on price.

Timestamps

[02:20] Why staffing penetration is collapsing
[04:55] Buyers are skeptical, busy, and informed
[06:45] The danger of selling without buyer enablement
[09:20] The six-layer growth engine framework
[13:15] Why most differentiators don’t actually differentiate
[17:10] Escaping the “staffing aisle” trap
[19:00] How owners should pressure-test their messaging
[23:40] Making sales drop-bys actually work
[27:25] Why nurturing is the most ignored lever
[31:30] Buyer enablement without giving away secrets
[34:20] Why fewer employers are using temps
[35:50] Learning how to learn in a changing market

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors

InSights is presented by Haley Marketing. For a limited time, we’re offering 50% off a brand new staffing website. Just message Brad Bialy on LinkedIn and mention the Crazy Website Promo.

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Monday Jan 19, 2026

[Stage] An Economist's Forecast of the 2026 Labor Market (with Noah Yosif)

Monday Jan 19, 2026

In this episode of Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, Brad Bialy sits down with Noah Yosif to break down what staffing leaders must understand about today’s labor market and how economic uncertainty, AI, immigration, and policy shifts are reshaping opportunity for firms willing to adapt.

About the Guest

Noah Yosif is Chief Economist and Head of Research at the American Staffing Association, where he leads economic and policy research supporting staffing firms nationwide. A frequent voice in major financial media, Noah helps the industry translate complex economic signals into practical insight.

Key Takeaways

The labor market rewards preparation, not prediction.
Uncertainty exposes who truly understands their niche.
Staffing’s real superpower is insight, not inventory.
AI changes tasks faster than it changes demand.
Waiting for recovery is not a growth strategy.

Timestamps

[00:59] – Why orders are harder to win today
[03:35] – When staffing demand still exists
[06:15] – Blue-collar work’s unexpected comeback
[08:56] – Staffing’s real competitive advantage
[11:38] – Immigration’s hidden labor impact
[13:36] – Do we have enough workers long-term?
[16:29] – The four forces shaping hiring decisions
[18:25] – What lower rates mean for staffing
[19:24] – Why “wait and see” is a mistake
[22:33] – New revenue models changing staffing
[25:54] – The smartest 2026 focus for owners
[30:32] – Early signs of a staffing recovery

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors

Take the Stage is presented by Haley Marketing. The old way of selling staffing is dead. Let’s fix it – with smarter strategies and HUGE DISCOUNTS on modern lead gen tools: https://bit.ly/Bialy20

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Monday Jan 12, 2026

[InSights] Why Selling Staffing Is Harder Than Ever—and What Actually Works Now

Monday Jan 12, 2026

In this episode of InSights, presented by Haley Marketing, Brad Bialy sits down with Brad Smith to unpack why selling staffing services is harder than ever—and how tightly integrated sales, marketing, and AI-driven buyer enablement are becoming the real competitive advantage heading into 2026.

About the Guest

Brad Smith is Chief Strategy Officer at Haley Marketing, bringing more than 20 years of experience helping staffing firms turn digital marketing, technology, and strategy into predictable growth. A Certified Inbound Marketing professional, Brad is a frequent industry speaker and contributor to leading staffing publications.

Key Takeaways

Selling got harder—but avoidance won’t fix it.
Activity beats hope when markets tighten.
Buyer education now happens before sales conversations.
Specialization creates leverage in crowded markets.
AI amplifies systems—it doesn’t replace them.

Timestamps

[01:10] – Why sales feels harder than ever
[02:35] – The real reason leaders avoid quotas
[04:45] – When inbound stopped being enough
[05:10] – The shocking truth about 72 touches
[07:00] – Why reps quit before momentum starts
[09:15] – Turning marketing into sales leverage
[10:45] – How buyers decide before calling you
[12:40] – What buyer enablement actually includes
[15:10] – A $1.1M lesson in control and scale
[18:05] – Why marketing can’t fix broken sales
[21:00] – Focus beats doing everything for everyone
[26:20] – How AI shifts from advantage to necessity

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors

InSights is presented by Haley Marketing. The old way of selling staffing is dead. Let’s fix it – with smarter strategies and HUGE DISCOUNTS on modern lead gen tools: 👉 https://bit.ly/Bialy20

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: 👉 https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Tuesday Jan 06, 2026

[Stage] Why High Performers Burn Out (with Ashley Andersen)

Tuesday Jan 06, 2026

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy sits down with Ashley Andersen to reframe stress as a signal—not a setback—and explore how leaders can build mental strength, stay grounded in uncertainty, and keep showing up without burning out.

About the Guest

Ashley Andersen is the Founder & CEO of EzraSage, where she helps high-performing professionals and leadership teams build the mental strength to handle stress and pressure without burning out. With a clinical background in social work and psychology and experience as a certified executive coach and Dare to Lead™ facilitator, Ashley has worked with organizations ranging from family-owned businesses to Fortune 100 companies.

Key Takeaways

Stress is a signal, not a failure.
Awareness comes before intention.
Pause creates power.
Purpose buffers pressure.
Progress requires showing up.

Timestamps

[00:02] – Redefining stress beyond “good” and “bad”
[02:10] – Why the brain defaults to danger mode
[06:24] – The caveman brain at work meetings
[08:04] – The invisible guest mindset shift
[09:32] – Stop taking reactions personally
[12:13] – The power of the pause
[14:07] – Building accountability into team culture
[17:37] – Alignment beats agreement
[18:55] – Purpose as a stress buffer
[23:18] – Finding purpose through lived experiences
[28:09] – Why celebrating wins builds resilience
[32:09] – Keep showing up when it’s hard

About the Host

Sponsors

Take the Stage is presented by Haley Marketing.
The old way of selling staffing is dead. Let’s fix it – with smarter strategies and HUGE DISCOUNTS on modern lead gen tools:
👉 https://bit.ly/Bialy20

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy:
👉 https://bit.ly/Bialy30

Tuesday Dec 23, 2025

Best of Take the Stage 2025 | Lessons from the Staffing Industry's Top Consultants

Tuesday Dec 23, 2025

In this highlight reel from 2025, we bring you the BEST moments from the first 11 episodes of Take the Stage.

Topics Include:
1. Stress Management
2. How to Stop Chasing Prospects
3. How to Develop a Winning Sales Mindset
4. What High-Performing Sales Teams Do Differently
5. Staffing Industry Trends to Impact 2026
6. Can We Stop the Staffing Industry's Decline?
7. Why Culture is Your Competitive Advantage
8. Cold Calling Tips
9. How to Develop Strategic Partnerships
10. Go-to-Market Strategies for Staffing Firms
11. Proactive Strategies for Staffing Firms

Learn from the following industry experts:
Cathi WIlliams
Rochelle Carrington
James Abraham
Joey Frampus
Barry Asin
Mike Cleland
Patrick Morin
Dan Fisher
Kendra Cato
Avner Baruch
Martin Borosko
Michael Napolitano

About the Host

Brad Bialy is a trusted voice and highly sought-after speaker in the staffing and recruiting industry, known for helping firms grow through integrated marketing, sales, and recruiting strategies. With over 13 years at Haley Marketing and a proven track record guiding hundreds of firms, Brad brings deep expertise and a fresh, actionable perspective to every engagement. He’s the host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the staffing industry’s leading podcasts with more than 200,000 downloads.

Sponsors and Offers Heard

InSights is presented by Haley Marketing. The old way of selling staffing is dead. Let’s fix it – with smarter strategies and HUGE DISCOUNTS on modern lead gen tools: https://bit.ly/Bialy20

Book a 30-minute business and marketing consultation with host, Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30